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Subject: Re: [ Creed Discuss ] VA Beach Concert

From: "Nanci" <NanciY@attbi.com>
To: "The New Improved Less Lame List" <creed-discuss@debbir.com>
Date: Sun
14 Jul 2002 12:02:02 -0400
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It might be 2 words but I am constitutional incapable to writing them that
way oh well
----- Original Message -----
From: "Debbi" <debbir@lafornara.com>
To: "'The New Improved Less Lame List'" <creed-discuss@debbir.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 6:03 AM
Subject: RE: [ Creed Discuss ] VA Beach Concert


> A LOT
>
> It's TWO FUCKING WORDS PEOPLE
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nanci [mailto:NanciY@attbi.com]
> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 6:38 PM
> To: The New Improved Less Lame List
> Subject: Re: [ Creed Discuss ] VA Beach Concert
>
>
> Ok, I hear what you're saying Joe, I do and have thought that they
> hurried the album cuz they were afraid if they took to long then the
> "fans" might cool off and they were on a roll and yes the money was
> rolling in. I have listened to their 3 cd's alot lately and the gradual
> flow into <for want of a better word> softer music is very evident.
> Although Bullets, FF and WGMB are rougher they definately are not the
> Hard sound from MOP.  But that could be cuz He Scott S. is not so angry?
> No need to anialate his so
> called enemies?   Don't know the answer to that one.  I still after
> listening to the cd's find the music itself very good. But yes it will
> be interesting to see if they will keep softening or pick it back up.
>
> Another thought, will Scott's injuries play a part in how the next cd
> comes out? or will the fact that they might be looking for a new label?
> {atleast to my understanding}because he got a bad rap from MTV over it
> and some of his credibility was tarnished.  We will just have to wait
> and see. Nanci
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Earles" <earles@attbi.com>
> To: "The New Improved Less Lame List" <creed-discuss@debbir.com>
> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 10:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [ Creed Discuss ] VA Beach Concert
>
>
> > Oh, no doubt the music is good but it's all too obvious that Stapp and
>
> > Tremonti's writing style have been heavily influenced by their
> > celebrity
> and
> > every album has gravitated a little more toward writing songs that
> > will
> pull
> > big paychecks and further away from simply writing songs.
> >
> > Another thing that irked me was how they made a point of letting us
> > know
> how
> > little time it took to write "Weathered" like it was some sort of
> > benefit
> or
> > something I should be impressed with. I write songs. I could write 11
> songs
> > in 3 weeks, too. Would they be any good? Probably, but would they be
> better
> > if I wrote them, stepped back, came back to them in a few more weeks
> > and started fine-tuning them? Absolutely. Creed opted for the paycheck
>
> > and against putting out the best record they could this time and the
> > result is
> a
> > bunch of low-key cookie-cutter "written to hit the charts in Rock AND
> > Pop market" types of songs without the same level of emotion that was
> > evident
> in
> > the first two albums. I just hope that the next album is better,
> > that's all...
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Nanci" <NanciY@attbi.com>
> > To: "The New Improved Less Lame List" <creed-discuss@debbir.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 8:58 AM
> > Subject: Re: [ Creed Discuss ] VA Beach Concert
> >
> >
> > > As much as I'd like to say otherwise I really can't see them
> > > releasing
> any
> > > of those 3. FF and WGMB are two of my favorites,  like I said
> > > before,
> > since
> > > I never hear them on the local stations anyway, does it really
> > > matter if Creed sucks up to the masses?  At least their music is
> > > GOOD. Nanci
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Joe Earles" <earles@attbi.com>
> > > To: "The New Improved Less Lame List" <creed-discuss@debbir.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 1:32 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [ Creed Discuss ] VA Beach Concert
> > >
> > >
> > > > Bullets, Freedom Fighter and WGMB. It's all downhill from
> > > > there....
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Lee Reed" <creedyrn4ever@hotmail.com>
> > > > To: <creed-discuss@debbir.com>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 1:29 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [ Creed Discuss ] VA Beach Concert
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > yeah, but name a tune on weathered that DOESN'T fit that
> > > > > category...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: "Joe Earles" <earles@attbi.com>
> > > > > >Reply-To: The New Improved Less Lame List
> <creed-discuss@debbir.com>
> > > > > >To: "The New Improved Less Lame List"
> > > > > ><creed-discuss@debbir.com>
> > > > > >Subject: Re: [ Creed Discuss ] VA Beach Concert
> > > > > >Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:59:51 -0400
> > > > > >
> > > > > >That's a good choice, even if it does serve to drive another
> > > > > >nail
> > into
> > > > > >their
> > > > > >POP-Crossover Coffin...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >From: "*Kate* ." <sky65@hotmail.com>
> > > > > >To: <creed-discuss@debbir.com>
> > > > > >Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 9:57 AM
> > > > > >Subject: Re: [ Creed Discuss ] VA Beach Concert
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Their set was scheduled for 9pm-10:35, according to the
> > > > > > > security
> > > guard
> > > > > >in
> > > > > > > front of us.  They took the stage at about 9:05 and ended at
> 11pm.
> > > > From
> > > > > > > what I've read about the earlier concerts I don't think the
> > > > > > > set
> > list
> > > > was
> > > > > > > altered from the first dates.  The set was pretty much every
> track
> > > > from
> > > > > > > weathered and then the songs that had been released from MOP
>
> > > > > > > and
> > HC.
> > > > > > >   Oh, and if anyone's interested, Scott did say that the
> > > > > > > next
> > single
> > > > was
> > > > > > > going to be "Don't Stop Dancing."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >                            -Kate
> > > > >
> > > > >
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